Why Barack Obama is ENTP

We admit this one is tricky. We understand that many of you believe that Obama is an NF type, but nonetheless we firmly believe that he is an ENTP (and thus, contrary to popular opinion, not a Feeling type).

Apart from some Keirsians, who believe that Obama is an INTJ, the majority opinion seems to be that Obama is some sort of ENF. So why have we typed him as ENTP? ENFs seek to soothe, while ENTPs play the devil’s advocate and try to stir things up, right? At any rate, the reason Obama certainly isn’t an introvert is that he in no way seeks to insert a buffer between his own psyche and reality as it objectively exists, which is the prime Jungian criterion for introversion.

Certainly, if we look at Obama’s 2008 campaign platform and his message of “Hope” and “A More Perfect Union”, these messages are clearly in accordance with an ENF mindset. But that does not mean that the man himself has ENF preferences. In fact, looking beyond the surface, Obama has some classical ENTP traits, like an elitist, biting humor and an uncompromising disagreeableness in private negotiations. And though he has written two biographical books, central areas of his life (for example, how he came to attend Harvard) are still shrouded in secrecy – Obama, then, is exactly the kind of man who (in the words of Machiavelli) “wears one face in public and another in private.”

To gain some orientation we could ask ourselves: Does Obama introvert Feeling (Fi) or extrovert Feeling (Fe)?

Introverted Feeling (Fi) is subjective and ego-based: It flows from the inner world of the subject’s psyche and is largely independent of the external situation. As such, Fi can seem child-like, self-indulgent, awkward and inappropriate. But to make up for all of this, Fi is sincere.

Extroverted Feeling (Fe) is objective and feeds off the external situation. Fe infuses the subject with the mood of any given situation, enabling the subject to articulate just the right words and sentiments in a given situation, just what people want to hear. The price to pay, however, is that, as Fe is fed off of the external situation (rather than off of the subject’s inner psyche), Fe can be shallow, vague, vapid and insincere – “a means to an end.”

Barack Obama is clearly an person who extroverts Feeling.

Introverted Feeling (Fi) appears in ENFPs.

Extroverted Feeling (Fe) appears in both ENFJs and ENTPs.

So Obama is either an ENFJ or an ENTP.

Which means we should ask ourselves: Is Obama primarily an externally-observing pattern-recognizer (Ne) or an externally-judging mood-articulator (Fe)? We admit that the answer is difficult, yet we firmly believe that Obama is an ENTP who has learned to suppress his Ne to an unusual degree.

In reply to those who insist that Obama’s use of Extroverted Feeling is beyond the range of an ENTP we posit that his use of Introverted Thinking would be equally beyond the range of an ENFJ, even the best of whom, unlike Obama, have to mind a tendency to fall into sloppy logic (because Thinking is their repressed function). The corresponding ENTP shortcoming is their tragicomical trouble with Sensing attention to detail – a case in point being Obama’s notorious inability to hold on to a piece of paper he will be needing shortly, causing his personal assistant never to give it to him until the last possible moment. His ESTJ wife also teases him about his deficiency of Sensing (her own auxiliary function) such as his inability to put together goodie bags for a kid’s birthday party, whereas there is no evidence that she finds his Thinking wanting – and Thinking dominants tend to find all Feelers’ Thinking wanting at some time or another!

Finally, Obama is known for being argumentative and sardonic in private, challenging his associates on the clarity and consistency of their meaning even in smalltalk and enjoying a spirited ribbing. This is the preferred aloof socializing of an ENTP, whereas there are no reports of Obama privately engaging in the emotionally laden bonding that is the preferred intimate behavior of the ENFJ. (See our ENFJ typings for examples of such politicians’ preoccupation with tuning into and mirroring other people’s feelings.)

Update November 2012: When this blog post was first posted, popular knowledge of the cognitive functions was not as widespread as it is today. Therefore we tried to avoid delving too much into function theory when writing this post. Since then, more people have jumped on the bandwagon, and so the need for a “version 2″ of this post, relying more explicitly on the cognitive functions, has grown increasingly pertinent. Until we get around to that, however, we would like to add the following remarks to what we said above:

Our typing of Obama as an ENTP is controversial. It is perhaps the single most controversial typing on our site. Reasonable people can disagree over his type.

It is a shame that Jungian typology is out of fashion with the academic establishment, for while the public at large seems very keen on pegging Obama as an (e)NF type, the academic psychologists who have given their guesses with regards to the “Big Five” model tend to score him very low on the trait of Agreeableness: They tend to regard him as a “cold fish”; a cynical (and logical) operator.

The thing that is deceiving about Obama is that he is extremely subdued and thus very much NOT what most people would expect of an Ne-dominant type. However, we still maintain that Ne-Ti-Fe-Si are the functions that make the most sense for him, cognitively.

Behaviorally, though, Obama behaves “like a J”, which again is also something that academic psychologists will attest to. But alas – what we have here then is one of those relatively rare cases where tendencies of cognition and tendencies of behavior diverge. (In a recent interview Obama himself hints at an explanation for this divergence when he says that living a structured life is “not my natural state. … But at some point in my life I overcompensated.”)

As we explain in our Bill Gates video (from ca. 10:00 and onwards), Jungian typology is really not about behavior, which is pretty much the no. 1 reason for mistypings: People tend to look at the person’s behavior, not at the cognition. Indeed, if people would take the time to read Psychological Types, they’d see that cognition is about 90% of the type portraits. Predictions of actual behavior are added to those portraits almost as afterthoughts.

Ok. So far, so good, but what about Obama’s type?

To get closer to the mark, we would like to argue against a counter-claim. Incidentally, many people have criticized our Bill Gates video for doing more to falsify the “Bill Gates is an INTP”-claim than to argue the “Bill Gates is an ENTJ”-claim. This criticism seems to indicate some misunderstanding about how science is supposed to work, since one should actually aim to falsify all claims and then go with the one that resists falsification the best rather than trying to prove the claims that one has already settled on in advance.

Thus, we pick a counter-claim. At this time, the most popular typing of Obama appears to be that of (e)NFJ. Noting that NTPs and NFJs each use Fe-Ti, the central question then becomes: Is Obama an Ni-Se type, or is he an Ne-Si type?

As the people who have read Psychological Types will know, NTPs have objective observations and subjective judgments, that is to say, their observations and information are easy to follow, but their judgments are more ‘internal’ and harder for people who do not themselves prefer Ne-Ti to follow. (Which is all very ironic since NTPs, for the life of them, try to construct judgments that are universally valid, as something that can live on outside themselves [e.g. Kant].)

So Ne-Ti is predominantly external observations and internal judgments. With Ni-Fe it is the other way around. Using an early example of Obama in 1995 as a data point, we note that while his behavior and manner of speaking would, in Big Five terms, point to high Conscientiousness (what could loosely and erroneously be called “J” in terms of Jungian type), his underlying cognition does not point to a preference for judgments that are outwardly directed.

For example, Obama speaks for a very long time about his plight growing up, his lack of proper role models and so on. The length at which he speaks and his dignified seriousness make him appear to be speaking profoundly, but he consistently fails to bottom line his observations (or what an extroverted judger refers to as ‘getting to the point’). He himself does not naturally make it a priority to define what we should be feeling about all this or to formulate any kind of call to action. It is only when the interviewer summarizes his points (05:55) that we start seeing actual extroverted judgment in action. This pattern is repeated throughout the video.

Another point to note is that Obama seems to reject the interviewer’s consistent pitches for Obama to offer his own value judgments or his own subjective observations on the matter. Instead he keeps steering things back onto a track of objective observation, backed by a minimum of analytical information processing. In other words, he is quick to bring the ball back onto the NTP court. Now, the reader may object that Obama simply doesn’t want to talk about “personal stuff”, but this claim is in itself not sufficient to explain his seemingly painless ability to shift into Ne mode and just stay there. For example, at around 7:30 in the Obama in 1995 video Obama launches into a prolonged analysis where he continually stresses a multitude of observations, including non-central ones.

As Myers says, Ne users subject their inner understanding to the outer situation, while Ni users subject the outer situation to their inner understanding. Thus we believe that the observations that we have offered above attest to Obama having a preference for Ne over Ni.

22 Comments

  1. kingtut says:

    I like your site. This is a well explained argument.

  2. D.Caf says:

    I completely agree. B.O. is no NF.

    Pattern of speech is the dead give away. Most all politicians are T’s.

  3. Mark Novbett says:

    I understand and see the logic behind this article however, after examining Obama’s work so far, I strongly believe Obama was an INTP who worked to bring out his extrovert, sensing sides. His J side is very strong as well. Why? He relies more on data than the past.

  4. Mark Novbett says:

    As a native ability of an INTP personality type, this might explain why Obama is a native INTP and NOT an ENTP:

    “INTPs tend to be rather mistrusting of people and are rather sceptical. However, a lot of their trust is based on what the Ne function tells them about somebody. This can lead to a naivity and sometimes to prejudices based on intuitive perceptions of appearence and style. People can be a problem for INTPs: on the one hand they are fascinated by some types of people, especially more extraverted individuals, but a fear of irrational behaviour in others usually leads to caution. Friendship with INTPs develops at a pace which depends considerably on the temperament of the other person. INTPs dislike making the first move and tend to mirror the emotional content of the other person. A jolly person will quickly bring the INTP out of his shell, as much as that is possible, while a serious person will find a serious INTP looking back at him. In this sense, INTPs preference for intuitive perception (rather than action) with respect to people results in them resembling a chameleon. The INTP can fit into many different modes of behaviour, even contradictory ones, in order to get into the mindset of the other person. The goal is to gain enough intuitive data to analyse and assess the person. In doing this, the INTP remains somewhat reserved, never wholly identifying himself with his surroundings. As chameleons, INTPs are therefore approachable and open, unless the Ne tells the INTP that the other person is a type he doesn’t like, in which case the reserved attitude may become too obvious. The chameleon behaviour can be particularly strong when discussing something. The INTP may even argue something that he doesn’t really believe himself. Sometimes it is for the intellectual stimulation that comes with the challenge of arguing from a variety of standpoints. Otherwise, it may be to avoid early conflict before the situation has been fully assessed. Chameleons hide their true selves. INTPs do not do this cynically, or indeed all the time, but it is a result of the strong desire to remain detached and observe.”

    Hiding is in our nature. This is what lets us truly flourish our abilities. Choice to USE the information we gather towards a better solution that does not quite harm others is also an innate ability of ours. Obama has to be a native INTP whose personality forced itself to develop and display the characteristics of ENTP and INTJ.

  5. Marc Snebbout says:

    Only very few people seem to think Obama has SP-preferences, i.e. speaking in Keirsey’s language that would put him in the Artisan Temperament category. I’ve been convinced of this for quite some time and nothing I’ve seen or heard from Obama since he took office has convinced me of anything else. Let me explain.

    Shortly after Barack Obama won the elections I received an e-mail from one of my American trainees who had been in one of my type workshops in March 2008, when in both the Republican and Democratic party the pre-elections were gaining momentum for the final race. My trainee had remembered very well how at some point during the workshop I had explained Temperament Theory and we had discussed David Keirsey’s book “Presidential Temperament” for quite some time. The main topic of Mark’s e-mail was not at all related to type but to process optimization but at the very end he wrote this PS, which I then responded to.

    “P.S. Marc, are you certain that Obama is a Rational? Rationals have never beaten Artisans! I suspect that Obama is an Idealist.”

    “Now let’s talk about Barack Obama’s temperament type for a minute. Am I sure that he is a Rational? Absolutely not, in the same way I’m not at all convinced that McCain is Artisan. Let me explain what I mean but first – at the danger of creating the perception I’m being defensive – I want to say that at the time we had the session in Richmond (March 2008) both McCain and Obama were pretty much unknown quantities to me. What I mean is that I hadn’t really studied and observed either of them until they won their respective pre-elections. This was not the case with Hillary Clinton whom I “knew” a lot better of course. When I said at the time that McCain was Artisan and both Clinton and Obama were Rational, I had taken that information literally and at face-value from the websites of David Keirsey (www.keirsey.com & http://www.personalityzone.com); he is after all the inventor of Temperament Theory.

    I’m certainly not claiming to know more or better than Dr. Keirsey but in actual fact when the real campaigns got on their way I very quickly started having doubts about Obama and McCain; Clinton being Rational was clear to me though. So I started checking some more fora and expert websites and could see that I wasn’t the only one with doubts, particularly about Obama. The thing that makes it awfully difficult to determine politicians’ temperament – which Keirsey repeats time and again – is of course the fact that the large majority of times we see and hear them when they are in a role, when they’re acting and even though they appear to be spontaneous very often they’re not.

    When going to Keirsey’s website you’ll find that even until this day he maintains that Obama is an Inventor Rational, which corresponds to the MBTI type-code ENTP and I’ll admit he does behave like one on many occasions, particularly during his speeches. But on the other hand I read during the final month of Obama’s campaign that his speeches were written by … a 24-year-old Belgian public relations graduate who had joined the campaign team as a volunteer to go canvassing for votes. At some stage Obama’s professional speechwriter was taken seriously ill at a crucial moment in the campaign and many poeple were starting to panic, but this guy from Belgium put his hand up and asked if he could have a go at it. He could and besides having done a great job Obama also liked communicating with this youngster, i.e. the chemistry was optimal, so the kid stayed on as the newly appointed chief speechwriter.

    The interesting thing this fellow said in the newspaper article is that whenever Obama would not be happy with the draft, invariably it would be due to some phrases he found “too idealistic and intangible, too abstract, too far into the future and not down-to-earth enough”. What I find odd about Obama’s reasons for not liking the lines is that I believe Rationals or Idealists would give the same ones, but for LIKING them – not disliking!

    Besides all this there have been a few occasions however, where Obama definitely has been spontaneous and where I believe his true preferences became visible. One was when he was on “The Tonight Show” with Jay Leno, where he described his bowling style as resembling the Paralympics. Do you really believe an Idealist would make that kind of comment? I didn’t think so either; this was a 100% impulsive answer you would only expect an Artisan to give (and regret it a nano-second later).

    Another example was his conference during his trip to Nicaragua just after he had met Chavez. A reporter asked him to comment on the criticism the perception this visit had created was in conflict with the US-interests. Obama responded by asking anyone to explain “how it can be that a handshake with Mr. Chavez and a brief but positive conversation could jeopardize the USA’s interests in Central America”. That’s not what I would expect a Rational to say. Challenge a Rational about strategy and he’ll be happy to explain why this can’t and won’t not have the negative effects people fear. Rationals eat and breathe strategy but Obama chose a different way asking “show me cold, hard facts and the logic why you think this might backfire against us”. That has “Artisan” written all over!

    Something else that supports my view is the action speed Obama has demonstrated since he took office, starting with the reversal or nullification of 800 decrees his predecessor had issued. Can you in fact recall any other president who in his first 3 months of tenure executed as many specific decisions as Obama has? This quick action-mindedness is also typical for the Artisan, while Rationals usually think a bit longer before acting, and Idealists would first make sure everyone agrees with the plan. Guardians, on the other hand, would first of all try to stabilize organisation, i.e. the country by safeguarding what works and by improving what doesn’t. They would probably not facilitate the momentum for the magnitude of change the country needs, or that people think it needs.

    So in my opinion Barack Obama is an ESTP-Artisan, which is really not very different from the ENTP-Rational that David Keirsey thinks he is.

    Before I finish, a quick word about John McCain, who’s believed to be Artisan but whose behaviour I see fit the Guardian temperament type much better. I’ve heard a lot more traditionalism and conservatism in his statements than I’d expect from an Artisan. How he’s persisted holding up the image that he’s a war-hero is symptomatic of this. And what to think of his speech to acknowledge Obama’s victory. At the end McCain stated that from that moment on he was going to support the new president and called all his voters to do the same. Although this seemed like a noble act by a man standing tall in defeat; the fact is that his own party almost lynched him for saying that. Only one temperament is known to effortlessly demonstrate compliance to the establishment, sense of duty, obedience to a higher authority and respect for rules and regulations and that’s the Guardian.

    Ready for my bottom-line conclusion? Assuming it’s correct that McCain has a Guardian and Obama an Artisan temperament type this would give an interesting twist to history and restore a tradition. According to extensive research the tradition that began in 1900 would go on – that never in the history of the USA, anyone has ever defeated an Artisan presidential candidate.

    Wouldn’t that be very funny?”

  6. admin says:

    Mark: Where do you see Keirsey claiming Obama to be ENTP? Last time we checked, he said INTJ(!) If we can find a link, we’ll update.

  7. Iva says:

    “Obama has some classical ENTP traits, like an elitist, biting humor and an uncompromising disagreeableness in private negotiations. And though he has written two biographical books, central areas of his life (for example, how he came to attend Harvard) are still shrouded in secrecy – Obama, then, is exactly the kind of man who ‘wears one face in public and another in private'”

    LOL, which personality types are most easily duped by conspiracy theories that conform to their own personal politics? You might want to zip up; your INTJ is showing!

  8. Sam says:

    Process of elimination for me!

    Obama is clearly not an SJ.

    I don’t believe he is an SP either. He is cautious, his improvised speech is often halting, hesitant, and measured, he seems to emphasize intellectual merit over physical prowess, he is an abstract, global, big-picture thinker, and he exhibits none of the ostentatious machismo that many male SPs (especially high powered ones) tend to exhibit.

    Therefore Intuition is one of the top two functions. But does Thinking or Feeling accompany that?

    NF
    INFJ/P – As for INFP, I don’t think Obama is Fi dominant. But he seems averse to conflict, seems self-contained and sometimes introverted, seems careful with others’ feelings, seems able to connect with an audience at a visceral level, and seems – or seemed during his first presidential campaign – to hold clearly defined values paramount. Superficially, some of these qualities could be interpreted as a Ni/Fe or Ne/Fi combination. But I would guess those qualities are probably more the product of a public persona and campaign image, or even the influence of an NF mother, than his own personality.

    ENFP – He may be Ne dominant, but Obama shows an emotional restraint and coolness that I think is uncharacteristic of ENFPs. He doesn’t seem to be as verbally fluid in unscripted situations. His approach to political issues isn’t so much to champion or advocate for causes as is typical of ENFPs. He seems more interested in legalistic and policy approaches to addressing issues. I’d say that suggests a Thinking function auxiliary. And a law professor? More likely Ti.
    ENFJ – Doesn’t exhibit Fe dominant.

    NT –
    E/INTJ, I don’t think so. Obama is adaptable, and doesn’t seem rigid in personal or professional matters. His decision-making process is relatively deliberative and egalitarian, he is not a field marshal or introverted systems architect. His leadership style isn’t very decisive. He is socially comfortable, and fluent, if not fluid, in social situations.

    I think it comes down to E/INTP. I think of INTPs as mostly living in their heads, unlike the more externally focused Obama. I believe Obama is more of an intellectual dilettante than we might expect of an INTP.

    So to translate:

    SP: More macho, impulsive, and visceral than Obama.
    NF: More emotive and cause- or value-oriented than Obama.
    ENTJ: More decisive, autocratic, and commanding than Obama.
    INTJ: More intellectual, introverted, and decisive than Obama.
    INTP: More socially awkward, aloof, and abstract than Obama.
    ENTP: Yeah. Much as he sometimes seems have a Feeling function as an auxiliary, I don’t think that’s the case. I think ENTPs can mimic that pretty effectively with their Ne dominant. And much as he seems introverted and self-contained, that may be a well developed Ti auxiliary showing itself.

  9. Random_Guy says:

    It is certain that the guy has “Fe” seeking that connection with people as strongly evident. However the problem is that he is not a dominant Fe type, he just lacks the dominant use of it. The guy lets everything walk over him without being able to stand ground with what ever the majority may deem acceptable. This might be my bias viewpoint but its hard to justify the guy as a compete “Fe” user. He lakes “Te”, doesn’t seem to have that orientation towards logic that its out there; It can be clearly be argued otherwise since Dawkins is out there with logic but the thing is that dawkins’ logic has a vibe to it which isn’t “objective” in the whole Jungian sense. Barry just lacks a lead or aux Te for sure; but the even though the Fi argument is weak since the Feeling is somewhat more “objective” out there with out the vibe that Fi has.

    And the question as to whether he is introverted or extroverted is a bit of a simpler one, the guy doesn’t have the subjective lens of any kind oozing in him. He is some kind of extrovert. I would argue that with regards to intuition he definitely has “Ne” lead since he is a procrastinator, he waits there hoping for potential that the GOP can put on a smiley face but that just doesn’t happen. He just kept dreaming and wasting time. Thus somekind of unhealthy ENTP, with a strange Ennegram 2 type.

    This typing was negative but that is the best argument I’ve come up with.

  10. Seaye raye says:

    My guess is ESTP. I had a whole post written out on why I think this, but when I registered with Disqus to post it, the whole box went blank. So here is a five point summary

    1. ENTP and ESTP are very similiar. The last quote on David Cameron’s box shows ESTP can be elitist.

    2. Surpressed Ne? How about no Ne? Still keep Ti and Fe out of the inferior postion

    3. Obama like Se things, Basketball, Cigarettes and used to smoke weed, and owns up to it. (George W used his drug use as a way to show how “lost” and far from God he had become, so he showed remorse for doing so and Clinton denied using drugs [i.e. I did not inhale])

    4. Obama moved around a lot as a child, it is possible that this can explain his “coldness”

    5.There is a post by Marc Snebbout in the “Why Barack Obama is ENTP” page that give more examples of why he might be ESTP

  11. admin says:

    ESTP? We’ve certainly never heard that before! :-)

    Regarding his interest in baseball, though:

    “President Obama, in a radio interview at a ballpark, was
    asked if he, as a Chicagoan, preferred the Sox or the Cubs. He claimed
    he was a Sox fan, twice mispronounced the name of Comiskey Park, twice
    referred to the umpire as “the judge,” and, asked for his favorite White
    Sox, past or present, could not come up with one name.” – David
    Mamet, The Secret Knowledge, Sentinel, Penguin, 2011, p.217

  12. Seaye raye says:

    es, but this can be attributed to him being a politician having to answer a question about something he does not actually care about. He can’t just say “I’m not a fan of either.” Especially in a town with two MLB teams. People in this country value sports to much, showing a lack of disinterest in something people care about isn’t something any politician would do.

    However, Obama cares about basketball, He had the outdoor tennis court in the White House turned into a basketball court. Type “Obama and basketball” into Google you will find pictures of him playing the sport. About a year ago the president had to get stitches on his lip from a pickup game he was playing one day.

    Some links to shows his love of the sport:
    1. http://thegrio.com/2012/09/28/

    He invites one of the best players the country has to play with him, and he appears to be very competitive

    2. http://www.washingtonpost.com/

    Shows he has had a life long interest in this sport. Not something he did to make him more appealing to the people of Chicago.

    3. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c

    Some pictures of him playing the sport.

    4. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

    Reference for my claim that he had to get stitches.

    5. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/

    Reference for my outdoor tennis court to basketball court claim. The article also claims he had “rituals” during the primaries. Most athletes have their pre-game rituals as well.

    If you think he is simply too rigid and stiff to resemble a normal ESTP, the quote at the top of the page might explain why “My wife makes fun of how routinized I’ve become. It’s not my natural state. … But at some point in my life I overcompensated.”

  13. G says:

    Interesting that someone mentioned ESTP because I believe that is Obama’s shadow type.

    Here is Obama in INFJ mode back in 1995. Enjoy!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

  14. Anon says:

    Barack Obama is a fairly classic male INFJ. This would be more obvious if this type wasn’t so rare amongst men.

    Introversion – Those who have known him well have described him as an introvert. Furthermore, as a politician, both his allies and adversaries have criticized him for this trait. The “aloof” characteristic he if often charged with is common in INxx types.

    Intuition – Most of his focus and speeches are future and big-picture oriented. He seems to have a vision and that he’s trying to communicate that vision to anyone he can. Also, his pause before answering question is very characteristic of intuition types which are directed inwards. Can’t see too much debate on this letter.

    Feeling – Most of his decisions seem to be attributed to humanistic causes. When that’s his push for healthcare reform (wasn’t logical here) or using the term “empathy” as a requirement for someone being a member of the supreme court (he choose two women). He seem motivated by growth in people more than organizational growth.

    Judging – Obama may not have the organization when it comes to mundane things like SJ types. But he is quite orderly in terms of his ideas, visions, and future directions. While he takes his time, when he makes a decision, he sticks to it very rigidly and wants it implemented.

    When looking at cognitive functions, he certainly demonstrates: Ni-Fe-Ti-Se in that order.

    Some may say an “NF” type would not be so interested in sports. If you look at QBs in the NFL, “NF” types are definitely overrepresented compared to the general population (esp the general male population). “NF” male types appear to have more interest in sports (esp team sports) than “NT” males.

  15. anno says:

    When I first read this note about Obama being ENTP I was surprised for about ten seconds then it became obvious that it’s correct. All his behavior that didn’t match ENFJ came to an explanation that really fits. I’ve discussed it with a near colleague and friend (ENTP himself) and got even more convinced. Since I used MBTI for more than ten years I’m stil amazed that there are so much more to learn.

  16. Anton says:

    I am an ENTP and it seems pretty transparent to me that Obama is an ENTP. I could explain at length, but it’s just too much work to be worth it.

  17. Hugo says:

    I have had the belief that B.O. was an ENFP for a long time, but after watching some interviews on youtube, Extraverted Feeling is clearly evident in his manner of presentation, although its not front and center as in ExFJ or IxFJ types. I think you nailed it – B.O. is an ENTP. Only dissagree with one thing, his wife is an INTJ ;)

  18. admin says:

    Thank you. We can also recommend our research here: http://www.celebritytypes.com/quotes/barack-obama.php

    As for Michelle, one thing is that the people who knew them in their youth speculated that he took her because he wanted an example of a “strong, black woman at his side.” I.e. not because they were two of a kind, soul/ mindmates or whatever you want to call it.

    Not to imply that that settles it, then. Just a point for consideration.

  19. Uhhhh says:

    Does Obama extrovert Ne?

    NO.

    Is Obama an extrovert?

    NO. See http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/09/i-am-delighted-we-have-introvert-white-house for example.

    What do you call in introverted intuitive who extroverts Fe?

    INFJ, d’OH!

  20. admin says:

    Keirsey already accounted for the arguments you link to before anyone had heard of Obama. You need to do more research before you break out the cocky attitude.

  21. admin says:

    * Jungian extroversion is not about being warm/cold or not talking to people.
    * Even outside Jungian extroversion, several leading researchers and psychologists have ascribed above average extroversion.
    * Even by your own link, there is nothing to suggest that Obama is an F type.

  22. Khendra says:

    Totally agree with you on Obama. Great job with many details and supports provided. BrainTypes.com gives the same typing, and has for quite some time, with even more details and supports provided. (His wife, though, I believe is ENTJ. Either way, no way he lives up to his potential without her organizing influence. People forget that Obama, even by his own admission in The Audacity of Hope, was NATURALLY a fun-loving, free-wheeling, open-ended, argumentative, party type of guy, one of many supports that make any suggestion of an __FJ type absolutely ludicrous. __FJs follow and place orderly social behavior above all; they wouldn’t golf extensively while stuff like ISIS goes on, for instance.)

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